p/wip
A community of makers shipping together
Marc Köhlbrugge
Work in Progress — A community of makers shipping together 🚧
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Work in Progress is a community of makers. We help each other stay accountable and focussed on building, shipping, and growing our products.

We publicly share our todos, celebrate our successes, discuss our failures, track our goals, and provide each other with actionable feedback.

Don't ship by yourself, ship together!

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Marc Köhlbrugge
👋 Hi PH! I'm so excited to finally share WIP with all of you! A few months ago I started a simple Telegram group for a couple of makers to share what they were working on and keep each other accountable to ship daily. Today this group has grown into a vibrant community of makers working in public, sharing their progress, and motivating each other to keep shipping. Here's how WIP works: 💬 Group chat Most of WIP happens in our Telegram group chat. Here's where we discuss what we're working on, ask for help, and share the occasional meme. We have a chatbot that lets you track your todos, and when you've completed them. This way everybody gets to see what the rest is working on which is very inspiring. 🤖 Chat bot We have a bot called @wipbot that lets you easily perform tasks in the chat. For example you can type "/done launched on Product Hunt" to create a completed todo, or "/ask What are best practices to launch on Product Hunt?" to post a question to the group. 🔥 Shipping Streaks If you complete at least one todo each day you will earn a streak. Kinda like how you can earn a streak on Product Hunt for upvoting, but with WIP it's all about shipping your own products. There's a public leaderboard of who has been shipping the most consistently. Currently dominated by Product Hunt Maker of The Year @levelsio with 162 consecutive shipping days. (This guy ships!) 👩‍💻 Maker Profiles Each maker has their own maker profile. It shows the world which todos you recently completed and which are still pending. It also shows your shipping stats so you can get a better sense of when you are most productive. Here's mine: https://wip.chat/@marckohlbrugge 🤔 Q&A Got a question for other makers? Looking for feedback? You can ask in the chat, but it might disappear after a while. That's why we've got slash commands like /ask that cross-post your question to the group. Recent questions: https://wip.chat/questions 💰 Paid membership WIP is a bootstrapped product so to support further development all memberships are paid. This also makes sure the community doesn't grow too big too fast. There are monthly and yearly subscriptions available. ---- For more info see https://wip.chat/about and https://wip.chat/open for all our public numbers. I'd be happy to answer any questions!
Marc Köhlbrugge
Major shout out to all WIP members for helping build the platform. Without you and your feedback WIP would just be me talking to myself. I can't possibly @mention everyone here (well actually I could with a simple database query, but I don't think PH will appreciate me @mentioning dozens of people), but you know who you are. Thank you so much for your support!
Emily Hodgins
@marckohlbrugge hi Marc, looks like a great community. Congrats on the launch and for building a place like this for Makers! 💯 Quick observation from your homepage. I see 40+ guys (+1 cat & 1 dog). I don't see any women. This may sound small but it makes the community seem much less welcoming (to me personally). If you have women in your community, be great to highlight on your homepage to feel more inclusive. If you don't, do you have plans do diversify your community?
Mo
@marckohlbrugge @ems_hodge That actually seems like a really good point in my opinion as well, I don't think there are more than a dozen women in WIP, @marckohlbrugge maybe you can share some stats?
Jonathan
@marckohlbrugge @ems_hodge Hi Emily, there're definitely women on WIP. What you see on the homepage sidebar is a leaderboard of the individuals with the longest streaks. In the middle is a stream of the most recent ships by the members of the group. Anyone can get on the homepage based on their level of engagement with the community.
Emily Hodgins
@marckohlbrugge @jonathan_trev hey Jonathan! That's good to hear. I was mainly referring to the two header images on the homepage and about us page. They were the first 2 things I saw when checking out the community.
Marc Köhlbrugge
Looks like there are a few other WIP members on the Product Hunt frontpage today. Make sure to check them out as well to get a better idea of what type of products our community is building. https://www.producthunt.com/post... https://www.producthunt.com/post... https://www.producthunt.com/post... https://www.producthunt.com/post...
Ken Wallace

I've been recommending WIP to friends for months now! Come for the accountability, stay for the music! WIP just continues to deliver. It's a great support system, especially for those of us working in areas of the world where there isn't an active community of makers and founders to draw support and feedback from.

Pros:

Active and engaged community. Always positive, always helpful. Well worth the membership fee!

Cons:

If you're cash-strapped, it can seem pricey (it's not, IMHO). I'd love to see Marc add a 48-hour trial, or scholarships for those in need.

Adam
Nice service but the paid aspect turns me off. @marckohlbrugge Could you send me an invite to try this service?
Sam Cambridge
The WIP community has given me a huuuuuge boost in productivity. It's a diverse, humble set of humans who are all willing to help out and share their opinions to push each other on and launch products. 10/10 would WIP again
João Antunes

I have been using WIP for a while, it's like a super duper IRC channel where everybody is a maker and has terribly good insights. If you ask, you'll get an answer, and you'll feel a part of this community of strangers. Plus, for people like myself, I do like to give my opinion out and help others

It has great potential. When I tried it, it had no separate channels, now it does.

It shows that it's a good product where the owners are listening

Pros:

Huge, helpful and great community of makers

Cons:

None - I was going to say topics/something where you could have more than one channel would probably be better.But Marck did it meanwhile 🙏

levelsio
WIP has kept me accountable for the last 150+ days: https://wip.chat/@levelsio I've shipped more than ever: 773 tasks in 162 days. WIP's chat on Telegram has been very solid to get quick feedback on new ideas I have, and help newbie and advanced shippers with issues they have, that we might have had in the past. Think "which payment processor to use" to "should I use Discourse for forum software or build my own?". I'm a solo maker, and at times that can also be lonely and being in a chat with ~1,000 people chatting about shipping and making friends has helped me a lot there. I know @producthunt is building something similar, and for good reason. Mixing community + accountability is a great idea and I think WIP validates it. I wonder what more products we'll see pop up. There's now so many indie makers, and WIP shows you can make products that help them ship.
Wouter van Lent
WIP has been an amazing community over the last few months. Very nice way to keep yourself accountable on your daily todos. Besides that very actionable discussions among, mostly, self-funded entrepreneurs and makers. Very valuable addition to my daily "tools". Congrats @marckohlbrugge on the launch!
Julian Lehr
Congrats on the launch, @marckohlbrugge! :) Awesome to finally see WIP on PH! I've joined WIP a few months ago and can only recommend it to other makers! Here's why you should join too: 💪🏻 Motivation Streaks are a very powerful technique to build habits and get things done. I've definitely been more productive since I joined WIP (280 to-dos completed so far!) 🆘 Help from others If you're a solo-maker, you're probably not an expert in everything. WIPs community is pretty diverse ranging from writers and designers to coders and marketers. So getting feedback and help from others is really easy. 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Community I used to work at a large corporation before becoming a solo-founder and the thing I missed most was being surrounded by other people. While being in a Telegram group isn't exactly the same, it does help to have a group of people to chat and drink a virtual coffee with! Hope to see some familiar PH faces on WIP soon :)
Charlie Harrington

I've only been using WIP for a few days, but I've already found it incredibly useful and a welcoming community to ask/answer questions and have fun while making.

Pros:

Love the social pressure and support to just Get Things Done

Cons:

The price is higher than I would like, but it's also a sort of additional pressure on me to keep shipping!

Dave Craige
Great work on this!
Patrick Loonstra
Great way to publicly show what you do. A great motivation to keep pushing it forward.
Ashish Kumar

I have been very productive for the last 70 days. The gamification of keeping your streak (shipping every day) going is addictive. Money making makers are already in the groups, & their comments on what works and what doesn't is quite valuable.

Pros:

Dope community, veterans & beginners all come together for the common goal of shipping stuff, usually every day!

Cons:

Lack option of collecting emails or any means of gathering interest for your products among the community itself

Marc Köhlbrugge
Thanks for your review Ashish! Adding email capture is an interesting idea for sure. Might add it at some point!
Del Williams
Great idea, but should tell people it's $20 per month/$150 per year.
Marc Köhlbrugge
@delwilliams Hi Del. The pricing is shown before you join. I also mentioned it's a paid membership in my opening comment. The reason I don't specifically mention the prices is because they might increase if there's too much demand. At the same time I didn't want too much time pressure on people ("sign up now before the price increases!") as it would give people the wrong incentive to join.
dimitar inchev
Been part of the WIP for a while now, and even if there is not much time to chat its great to be part of community that makes you feel part of a crew that ships together. Few places has this pool of knowledge that is eager to share from experience and not from opinion. Keep up the good work @marckohlbrugge + the offspring wipmusic has been a great for finding new tunes to work to.
Marcus Karoumi
One of the best communities for entrepreneurs out there. Love being a part of it 👏🚧
Swizec
WIP is the best. I am in a couple masterminds and this group beats them all hands down. The amount of knowledge, ideas, and inspiration shared every day is amazing. 👌 Seeing everyone ship has made me want to build more products. 7/7 would WIP again.
Cido
I stucked on the ‘Before we start, please configure a username in Telegram. It makes it easier for people to get in touch with you.’ part. It doesnt proceed whatever I typed
Marc Köhlbrugge
@hayalbaz Hi Cido, sorry to hear you’re having problems signing up. Could you send me a message? My username is marckohlbrugge – if you search for it I should show up.
Matt Baer
WIP has been awesome for pushing me to knock things out every day, especially without having a large physical community around me. Something as simple as the streak counter has been enough to make sure I sit down and work on something where I wouldn't have otherwise -- https://wip.chat/@baerson Everyone is really welcoming and happy to help others -- something that feels incredibly rare -- and it's been awesome seeing how @marckohlbrugge has built it up. Congrats on the launch!
Ryan Hoover
Great work, @marckohlbrugge. I love how you "MVP'd" WIP as a Telegram group. 👏🏼 Most people wouldn't charge from day 1, but in doing so (I think) you create accountability among participants. Will you offer a free membership to WIP someday?
Marc Köhlbrugge
@rrhoover Thanks Ryan! Membership was actually free of charge for the first few members as there wasn't much to charge for yet. It later became paid (for new members) to slow down growth. Too many new people coming in would disrupt the community we built. Right now there are no plans for a free tier. I'd rather focus all my efforts on making WIP the best platform it can be for makers that commit to WIP by paying the membership fee. I do realise there are makers around the world that truly cannot afford it. I'd like to find a way to help them at some point too, but I don't think a free-for-all membership would be the answer.
Ryan Hoover
@marckohlbrugge that's one way to curb user growth! At Product Hunt, we had a similar challenge in the early days. We didn't have the systems or internal support to manage a large community in the beginning so we introduced an invite system to slowly expand the community.
Benjo Libor
@marckohlbrugge The Dutch Connection (You & Pieter) definitely aims for the Guinness World Record of "most websites built in a lifetime". The anti-thesis for everybody who believes you should focus on one thing rather than many. The idea of WIP is great! Sometimes I just rest and think: It's crazy to see what impact PH had on a whole community. But isn't the cool part about the 'maker community' that people support each other for free. Free tools to build stuff, free advice from highly skilled experts, reach via popularity/votes instead of marketing spends. Not sure if a paywall supports this ideology. Imagine submitting to PH would have a price, what would the community be like today? Not saying you don't deserve rewards for your hard work, just that a paywall is a very conservative way of receiving those. There's so many more options. Introducing a paywall to slow down user growth!? You're a real boss 😂
Marc Köhlbrugge
@bnjmnlbr While I wholeheartedly agree with the concept of paying it forward, I don't believe that means every maker-oriented product or service should be free of charge. It might be okay for a one-off tool, but for anything more serious it's not sustainable. Every day new maker tools come and go. The ones that stay tend to be the ones that figured out a revenue model. Now there are different ways to raise the required capital to build a platform like WIP, but I personally believe simply charging customers is the model where everyone's incentives are best aligned. It has been working really well so far. We might open up some parts in the future of course, but I don't want to run before I can walk. One step at a time :)