@shpigford Wow. Makers of Investor Intelligence, this is a huge blow to your credibility. Logo, dataset, artwork... What did you not steal?

@shpigford @ftxrc They did the same thing on their last release too. Copied straight from @hakimel https://www.producthunt.com/post...

@shpigford @yusuf_nugroho @ryanhickmam this is new? alright.......

When you say, "we've helped over 47 companies raise capital totaling over $100mm..." does that mean you've helped 48 companies? :D

@kraftykyle Did you guys steal data from AngelMatch? Lol

@vickyteke Thanks! Appreciate the comment.

@vickyteke Totally agree. I'd consider myself in the target audience for this product but the $50/mo is a bit too steep for me. I could justify signing up on a $20/mo "sub-pro" tier if it was offered, but Google/LinkedIn/Crunchbase/AngelList searches are free. Still, a cool offering and very helpful to many I'm sure.

@kwiat was just added back

@kleinkleinklein It's a theme we purchased. It's in right now. I think much of it has to do with the popularity of undraw.co and waiting to differentiate from that.

@ryanhickmam @yusuf_nugroho @rashid_khasanov @shpigford @sab8a dang. What an embarrassment.

Yikesss............................................@ryanhickmam @yusuf_nugroho @rashid_khasanov @shpigford @sab8a

@m_beeze @lincolnwdaniel thanks -user and a fan of your smedian :-)

@rashid_khasanov That made me think of an interesting strategy to stop scraping. Have links which points back to your team that only a scraper would hit, then if people call you, give them that script above and pitch your product.

@rashid_khasanov the illustrations is belong to me hmmm. they took away from me with no permission too :(

@rashid_khasanov @ryanhickmam @rrhoover This is a quite a double whammy. They stole all the data and several design components (see @yusuf_nugroho), shouldn't this be taken down?

@rashid_khasanov Our data is not scraped from the AngelMatch database. In fact you need a pro account to see our full dataset and all of it's attributes. Our core data set is 4 times larger than what is available on the Angel Match website. Our primary data comes from firms (VC, Family Offices & Angels) who reach out to us directly for deal flow looking for new companies to invest in. Additionally curation from Crunchbase, LinkedIn and Angelist which we enrich with a third party data service. We have close to 90K profiles and posted 30k of the enriched ones. As we enrich and confirm profiles we add them. Your tech team does not have a pro account and is not examining our full dataset or it's schema. They don't have the access to even quantify or compare. Not sure if your objective is self promotion (which I imagine its working successfully for you) or sabotage to our growth, nonetheless I'm responding to clarify as users want to know. Your company Angel Match sells its Data for ~$250. This data is ALL over the internet and being resold. We've seen resellers online selling your list for $10 in several forums and even $5 on fiveer. I hope this clarifies things and if you would like to get on a call to hash it out DM me and we can very much do that.

@ryanhickmam I didn’t post my message on your PH page with the intention to damage your product or self-promote myself. My main concern is that you are obviously using our database (our work) which is softly speaking very unethical and wrong. Your website is insecure and it’s easy to access your data even without signing up to your Pro account. I will not show it here publicly, but if you want to get the proof (I will gladly show you privately with our tech team). I am backing up my words with the proof that your database is taken from Angel Match. See the example here: (https://imgur.com/a/LmtUvRp). I can show you many more examples, just let me know. So I don’t know how you can explain this. You’ve mentioned that you were reached out by investors directly to be added to your database, then why emails that you have are incorrect? Did they tell you wrong emails? Hardly believe so.. You are right, we provide an access to our database for $249, but people can’t simply export everything (we don’t allow bulk/large exports). Someone scraped us very slowly. Our tech team has worked and developed our own unique algorithm on getting information of investors from different sources including AngelList, Crunchbase, LinkedIn etc. The team knows all the flaws of the data, because it was gathered by them for months, and that’s why we are able to detect our database information and even bugs from the first sight. Can you back up your words with some proof/links that our database is being sold all over the internet such as Fiverr and Forums? That sounds nonsense without any proof and also how can you say with such sureness that it’s OUR LIST? Lastly, we can definitely jump on a call and I can show you all the proof that your database has our data.

@derekrezek thank you we have updated and will push update shortly ,

@sabrina3114 appreciate it coming from investment banker means a lot

@jimseymour thank you ! we love product hunt and early users and their feedback ! product hunt coupon is 50% off forever as long as you pay the monthly it will be in effect , dont let it lapse as you can not use it again :-) thank you again

@jimseymour @tomerdi @yusuf_nugroho @rashid_khasanov Are you going to address the gentleman that is alleging you stole his illustrations? And the other that is alleging you stole his content? Hardly cool @jimseymour. It's stealing, if true. Come on people. @producthunt, Sad.

@jimseymour @yusuf_nugroho @rashid_khasanov @producthunt @horseauthority_ HI Angela we have addressed it with both parties, we have paid for the theme that included the images, spoke to artist and seems the guys that sold to us might not have permission and we will remove as we want to protect their right or purchase art directly from artist (spoke to them directly). Re: database, we have emails from investors who have directly contacted us to be added to our list for deal flow. Additionally we have receipts from providers showing our purchase of additional data. I am not going to fight as this simply seems like a marketing stunt to drive their page traffic.

@jimseymour @yusuf_nugroho @rashid_khasanov @producthunt @tomerdi As a reporter, even when charges are filed in court and sometimes even after convictions there's always some "misunderstanding." Or, even better, they're trying to gain a flash of fame off of your rising star, here on PH? Somehow, I doubt that - because if you stole from them you're effectively ruining your reputation. There are now three alleged victims. I've personally spoken with one and that person tells me no one has reached out. And doesn't changing the graphics pretty much prove the other makers' allegations that you did steal their graphics? I for one wouldn't do business with you. And, I'm looking for funds and a tech co-founder. Reputation is everything folks - and you only get one.

@jimseymour @yusuf_nugroho @rashid_khasanov @producthunt @tomerdi @horseauthority_ So how did you manage to do the same thing as your first product on PH, was that a 'theme' as well? IMO someone should take you guys to court https://www.producthunt.com/post... ???

@ratiul2 thanks

@kenny_quach thank you Kenny - happy you find is useful if you need any help with the outreach you can DM me or chat on the site (intercom )