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Quartz for iPhone - An ongoing conversation about the news

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Ryan Hoover
With so many news apps, it's refreshing to see Quartz try something new. This follow the increasing trend toward conversational UI's (see @chrismessina's #ConvComm collection). Curious to hear how you decided to go in this direction, @_dlee, @zseward, @stimply.
Zach Seward
When Quartz launched in 2012, we put most of our effort on mobile, knowing that's how most of our readers would get their news soon enough. But we pointedly avoided building a native app because we felt the web was better suited for the way people read and share news *articles.* If we were going to do a native app, it wouldn't be a replica of our website. It would be something different and more truly native to the phone. That's what we've tried to do with this app. We wanted to experiment with some very clear trends in mobile: messaging, notifications, bots. Think of the app as a playground for some of those concepts. This note to readers talks more about what the hell we are thinking and acknowledges some inspirations: http://qz.com/613700
Milan vd Bovenkamp ♠
@zseward seriously, amazingly simple idea, fresh approach. Nicely done. Luckily there are more attractive and interactive new ways to bring news, as the Snapchat way makes me feel like a zombie staring at MTV on a poststamp. Are you considering multiple conversations as well, as you want to bring different news to different people (you're not really doing that on Quartz, I know, but: ) because mobile is more personal...?
Chris Messina
Top Hunter
@zseward @rrhoover: quoting myself: And receiving notifications from bots is to be expected, rather than avoided, because users have been conditioned to receive them from their friends. While you may have bristled when that news app alerted you to “new stories”, you might appreciate a particularly friendly newsbot delivering a personalized recommendation with context that you uniquely care about.
Saab
@zseward This is so creative, Im kinda of a news junkie and I really love this app, especially love the use of emoji there, theyre hilarious
Kevin Reape
I do like that it's something new, and it was fun this morning, but I can't imagine people using this to get their news this way long-term. It takes way too long. But, if they are better than USA Today at determining what is actually breaking news for notifications, I will never uninstall.
Zach Seward
We'll take it! 😄
Corey O
@kevinreape It does take very long. I think there's some opportunity to blend the messaging format more with an article format within the app. Perhaps, they're working on an in app article view ala Instant Article. I also second the "determining what's breaking news" That's why I really enjoy Notify by Facebook. Great as a minimal app for breaking news.
Ethan Kaplan
Hate to be the hater, but this is the most useless use of a conversational interface I've used. Not everything needs the latest in UI paradigms.
Ryan Hoover
@ethank I'm also not convinced this is the best interface to consume news but I appreciate the creativity and willingness to try something new. I appreciate those that try to do things different from the rest, even if it's not "successful".
Ethan Kaplan
@rrhoover I appreciate creativity that is innovative, not that is following the latest du jour bandwagon in tech interfaces. It's kind of like everyone going for "flat" interfaces, even when not necessary. Just because its a thing doesn't mean it needs to be YOUR thing. There are and were a lot of things like this: activity feeds, realtime web tech, flat design, folksonomies / tag clouds, etc. In the end I don't actually think its all that creative. It's just a reborn SmarterChild.
Ryan Hoover
@ethank BRING BACK THE TAG CLOUDS! I hear what you're saying. Trending chasing alone doesn't lead to a great product.
Adam Kazwell
@ethank @rrhoover had a strong negative initial reaction to this too...BUT a strong reaction in any direction is usually a good starting point for new apps :)
Ethan Kaplan
@rrhoover Usually they just serve as an example of why the trend is potentially a bad idea (see aforementioned tag clouds)
Tim Herbig
Woah, so impressive! Am already hooked on this new approach of getting news.
Alan Nichol
This is super cool - but I feel something is lost by it being a standalone app. Why did you go for that as opposed to hooking into an existing messaging app?
Zach Seward
We don't think they're mutually exclusive.
Chris Messina
Top Hunter
@zseward when will you launch on Slack and Messenger?
Ouriel Ohayon
Am i the only one not to be impressed? sure it 's cool but it seems to me a slow way to get new you can get in a much faster way by reading headlines of any news app?
Kevin Reape
@ourielohayon Exactly my thoughts. Their app usage on this is probably going to plummet in the first week.
Alex Manthei
This has such a good on-boarding flow! "Great. You'll get a pop-up asking for permission." http://imgur.com/B3P9YNN
Jorge Huerta U
@xoalexo Check out @samuelhulick teardown of Quartz app in http://useronboard.us7.list-mana...
Clark Wimberly
Since it looks/works a lot like chat, have you thought about making a plain ol' SMS service? So users with _any_ phone can play along?
Zach Seward
Have thought about it. Could be a bit too sluggish over SMS, would be our concern. But definitely want to offer something for any platform that makes sense.
LukaVida
@zseward — What about testing the concept through FB messenger/Whatsapp/similar before building the app? Would that help test what people feel about this kind of news experience? cc @clarklab
Zach Seward
It's not really possible, at least in the same way. I'm sure that will evolve, though.
Sebastian Blaga
News as a conversation really works, kinda like talking to a well-informed friend. This is a nice addition to their daily mail.
Scott Broughton
I have a question - did you guys have any trouble getting through Apple's review process with that UI? We've been rejected in the past for having UI that Apple deemed to replicate iOS system functionality (they claimed it would be misleading to users). In our case it was the phone call UI; in your case, Quartz has clearly been designed to look like the iMessage interface, despite it not being a messaging service. Love the concept of the app - just wondered if you'd had similar troubles, or if we were just unlucky!
Zach Seward
Thanks! Yeah, we did not have any trouble with that.
Jaime Macias
Chat as an interface +1
sri
@jmacias did i read slack?
Evan Knight
I read Quartz daily so this is awesome to see and play with, but probably too slow for daily use. Would be nice to scan all the headlines without having to press next, and then get more info about each one if you wanted to chat. Will be fun to watch how it evolves.
Matt Hamlin
I've only been using this for a few minutes now but this is amazing, have there ever been any thoughts about doing something like this on the web @zseward? Also I can't wait for an android version of the app also!
Zach Seward
I don't honestly think this would work as well on the web in its precise form, but certainly elements of it could, and we're looking at all options, including Android.
Corey O
@zseward You're right that messaging within the browser is a tough build. Alternatively, have you considered how a lot of people use iMessage on our desktops? It's honestly one of the easiest way to share and converse around specific news articles with friends.
Zach Seward
That's a good point.
Heiko Scherer
A fresh, new approach to news consumption finally.. well done! Wonder where this can lead to..
Akshay Bharwani
Just looks fantastic! waiting for an Android version!
Chris Oslund
Very cool design! Are you guys segmenting users based on which things they say 'Next' to? I'd be cool if Quartz got better and better at leading with the stories I care about most.
Johnathan Butler
Yes! Finally! An INTERESTING news app!
Mark Justin Harvey
The onboarding is truly something special. Totally reimagined what it can and should be. I can't remember exactly when onboarding ended and I started using the product. I've been thinking about onboarding screen for a while, glad to see somebody did something different with them.
Anthony DeLuise
Really love the conversation concept, but when I get a chat back after making the more / next selection and there's > 1 chat bubble, it's awkward to read. Too much too quickly.
Zach Seward
That's a good point. Thanks.
Martin
This looks like a great and refreshing new way to get the news! Any word on if/when an android version will be released?
Zach Seward
No timing on Android, but we'll certainly turn to it as soon as we have solid data and feedback on this first version.