Plum
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The AI assistant that grows your money.
Bram Kanstein (@bramk)
Plum — Your little savings butler: smart, automatic, 3% interest.
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Save more, invest in things that matter and reduce those pesky bills. Get started for free in 2 minutes.
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Nick O'Neill
So it seems like basically you are investing money in a P2P platform (like LendingClub, for example) and just taking the split on the interest? This is in exchange for immediate liquidity, correct? Pretty smart!
Victor Trokoudes
@allnick Hey Nick we just think that as people start to accumulate savings via Plum they should have a place to put them that will earn them interest and have liquidity.. P2P works for that. And yes you are right liquidity is pretty much instant given depth of the marketplace but not guaranteed.. Good to hear you like it!
Stephen Robinson
I don't mind using Messenger, but I wouldn't mind an iOS app at some point.
Alex Michael
@xstex Hey Stephen, thanks for the feedback! We've debated a lot internally on the value of an app and it's something we are definitely thinking about launching in the future. Chat is great for certain use cases, and building on Messenger allows us to iterate very fast, but apps are still stronger when it comes to information presentation and more complex interactions. So stay tuned :)
Stephen Robinson
@alexis_michael Understand completely, the information presentation is for sure why I would like it to. Thank you
Bram Kanstein (@bramk)
Plum is your smart robot 🤖 buddy that helps you save money before you know it. Literally. 🙌
Tom Bielecki
When do you plan on bringing this to Canada?
Victor Trokoudes
@tombielecki Hi Tom, as mentioned above we want to produce the best Plum for the UK right now and then will look to working in other countries. Sorry!
Alexis Loizou
Have been using for a few months now, great stuff well done guys - love the mood feature, takes 1 sec from me to influence how much I'm saving!
Alex Michael
@alexloiz Thanks dude!
Sean Geraghty
Been a Plum user for a few months now. Super easy to get started and great savings already building up! Congrats on launching on here guys! Wish you all the success in the future!
Victor Trokoudes
@se4nn Thanks Sean - keep on saving!
balaji bondili
I use Digit with similar functionality. They are text based and recently launched on FBM. Is there a better value prop for me to use Plum over them?
Thibault
I've been using the product for a couple of months now and am a big fan! Well done guys
Victor Trokoudes
@matsag123 Thanks a lot Matthieu, great to hear!
janniks
Looks amazing! Would love to give it a spin, stuck on sign-up ("A validation error has occured.")
janniks
Is this the error non-UK users get? 😊
Alex Michael
@jannikscript Hey, yes unfortunately :) We could do a lot better when it comes to some of our error messages!
Chip Hunnicutt
You had me until Messenger.
Victor Trokoudes
@chiphunnicutt Hi Chip, sad to hear that ;-) We were sceptical when we were launching but so far ppl have been fans despite being sceptics in the start. We clearly will and are thinking of new platforms to be on.. Is it just an app that would work for you? You can email me at victor@withplum.com
Chip Hunnicutt
@victor_trokoudes @withplum Tying my finances to Facebook is simply a non-starter for me. That's a part of my life I prefer not exposing to that company.
D BP
The UK market has been screaming out for something like this for a long time. Well done Plum for launching on PH, you've got me sold and signed up!
Victor Trokoudes
@dannypolicarpo Great to hear Danny, thanks a lot! Enjoy your automatic savings!
Daniel Matthews
Looks good, i started using it, but after being victim of a scam lately i decided to check out the terms - Section 12 is super-scary - what financial protections are in place to make sure i don't lose my money?
Victor Trokoudes
@danmatthews Hey Daniel good to hear some skepticism. So your money sits with our partner MangoPay which is regulated as an eMoney institution. This means that your savings remain at MangoPay till you withdraw them from Plum. eMoney rules stipulate that your money is ring-fenced from the operations of MangoPay, Plum and our partner bank, ie it can't go anywhere!
Peter Duffy
Using Facebook messenger raises a few security concerns. Do you require additional authentication beyond the standard Facebook messenger login to interact with the bot? If somebody has access to my facebook messenger (eg. forget to log out on someone else's laptop) can they browse all historical interactions in the messenger thread and interact with the bot to check account balance & invest plum savings?
Alex Michael
@pdffy Hey Peter, thanks for your comment! For now we're relying on Messenger for chat authentication but we're already working on adding a second layer of security. It's a bit tricky to get it right on the bot without it being too cumbersome on the user experience. If you have thoughts on the matter, I'd love to hear them at alex@withplum.com :)
Ed Maughan
Nice - been enjoying testing this out the last few months!
Victor Trokoudes
@edmaughan Glad you're enjoying Ed!
Didi Medina
hows this different than digit.co?
Esley Svanas
How is this different from Digit?
James Aveyard
Hi Plum, so love the idea, signed up all very easy...BUT when I got to the enter your username and password for your bank account, I slipped into a mild panic and bailed. I needed some messages to put my mind a rest; even better could you do what Xero accounting do where by your bank give you a code, so third parties can access your bank account (not your user name and password)! I don't think I ever give anyone my user name and password for my main bank account...the Mrs doesn't even have it!
Steven Harries
Your sign-up process needs to provide better user feedback. It keeps saying error but doesn't tell me specifically what I need to do.
Victor Trokoudes
@steven_harries Hi Steven, Plum is UK only currently, apologies.
Alex Michael
@steven_harries Thanks for the feedback! Definitely, our error messages are less than stellar in some cases :) As Victor said, we've focused on building the UX for UK users so far, but we will be fixing that.
Heather Jones
@victor_trokoudes @steven_harries Perhaps removing the country drop down menu or allowing for user sign up outside the UK? I'd love to at least get on a waitlist for the US :)
Steven Harries
@hthrjns @victor_trokoudes agree with Heather. Plum looks like an excellent product. All I meant was from a UX perspective is to at least provide exact feedback why US users can't sign-up within the signup process. It's a simple fix. All the best and will be looking out for the US release. Good luck!
Alex Michael
Hey all, I’m Alex, co-founder & CTO at Plum. Excited to be here – can't wait to hear your feedback and respond to your comments. Bram, thanks for the hunt! Plum is a savings assistant that lives in Facebook Messenger. It links to your bank account (🇬🇧 only for now), monitors your spending and sets money aside for you, automatically. We’ve also just announced our partnership with RateSetter, one of the UK’s leading P2P platforms, so you can invest part (or all, even) of your Plum savings and start earning 3% interest. PS: If you sign up coming from PH, you can skip all the queues and start investing as soon as the RateSetter integration goes into beta 🤗 PS2: Plum is UK-only for now!
Alex Michael
@efosaso Thanks Efosa!
Daveyon Mayne
@alexis_michael a quick one before jumping on your website to read the tees n cees, where my money is "tucked"?
Alex Michael
@mirmayne Hey Daveyon, your money is administered as e-Money by MangoPay, an EU-licensed financial institution and held at Barclays.
Jamie
@alexis_michael Great product!.... I bank with one of your supported banks. Their T&C's expressly state they will not be liable for any losses if I share my account information with third parties. When I read your T&C's both yourself and Yodlee are also indemnified from any losses. This is a difficult pill for me to swallow as it is basically asking me to trust you with my banking passwords but you are saying if yourself or a third party screw up then I suck up the loss. Apologies if I have misinterpreted anything, if I have please can you clarify, if not, are there any plans to work with the financial institutions to resolve this showstopper?
Amaël Sikel
Awesome concept! Would love to give it a try but I'm in France :/ However, seems we can "manifest interest" for our own country. Sharing the link here as it's a bit hidden deep in the FAQ → https://help.withplum.com/hc/en-...