Michael Seibel

Paigo - Automate billing for any pricing, 0% transaction fee forever

The automated billing platform for any pricing model: tiered plan, metrics with limits, usage-based, or recurring subscriptions. Set up your SaaS billing stack with zero effort and scale with developer-friendly billing API, all with no transaction fee forever.

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Matt Sun
Hello Wooooorld! We are Matt and Daniel, cofounders of Paigo. Thanks to Michael Seibel @mwseibel for hunting us in the Product Hunt community. We are so thrilled to share more about Paigo with you all! Daniel and I have been working together and on SaaS billing for so long that we lost track of the years. In my old days, leading the platform engineering team at ClickUp and managing Database-as-a-Service at MarkLogic, where Daniel also lead the architecture and development, we had to consistently tackle billing challenges for up to $200M ARR. Not to mention Daniel even developed E-commerce billing based on transaction volume for a public company. We did our due diligence at times by testing out all the big or small billing platforms in the world. Unfortunately none of them solved the two core challenges many people have observed. 👀 Observation 1: Every company must develop internal billing features and business logic on top of 3rd party billing systems, because existing business systems are generic, not flexible, and unable to fit companys’ pricing perfectly. 👀 Observation 2: Every company must develop internal billing automations due to integrating with different toolings used by departments and evolving processes over time. Another related consequence is the necessity of hiring a team to solve lack of automation, including RevOps, Deal Desk or Biz Ops to manually own billing. Therefore, we built Paigo to be a billing system for SaaS business with two key design principles: automation and flexibility. 🚂 Customizable to any pricing model Customize Paigo for any pricing model, early or late stage, and various go-to-market motion. 🏖️ Automate every single thing in billing Sit back and see Paigo makes billing operations happen continuously on a clock without human intervention. 📊 Usage data metering at scale Meter product usage in real-time natively from every layer of SaaS stack, for usage-based billing. 🖥️ No-code SaaS billing stack Set up billing onboarding, invoice portal, payment management, usage tracking and subscription management in 3 min without writing a single line of code. 📈 Billing, pricing and usage analytics Query and visualize data with SQL. Use Paigo lambda to perform advanced analytics with any script you upload. Last but not the least, Paigo is redefining the value of billing systems with groundbreaking pricing ourselves. We are the first and only billing platform with: 💗 Free Forever Plan 💗 No transaction fee or revenue sharing 💗 Unlimited access to all features and unlimited users We’d love to have your support! Please sign up for Paigo to try it out (because why not, it’s free forever😆) at this link https://paigo.tech/, and share your thoughts or questions of the product. We and the community would appreciate your candid feedback!
Bharadwaj Giridhar
@mwseibel @thisismattsun I love the free forever plan, do you have any plans for a javascript NPM module? I'm able to search for an API - not sure if it had an SDK to plug and play directly!
Daniel Wasserlauf
@goforbg Hey we have some code examples inside our docs and actually in the application itself. https://docs.paigo.tech/usage-me... However we are currently working on a full SDK for the API. So it should be out soon.
Sandhya Mishra
@mwseibel @thisismattsun Upvoted! Congratulations on the launch. I really like your product, and I would love to collaborate. Pls Check ur dm.
Esus 🛡️
The fraud detection mentioned by another commenter caught my eye. It feels like every day I see a tweet of a new founder getting 'credit card tested' and ends up paying hundreds in fees. Would be neat if this could be an alternative/solution for SaaS folks? Congrats on your launch!
Matt Sun
@esus Hey Esus, thanks for the insight! Honestly this scenario is quite new to me - credit card tested and paying hundreds in fees. I'd be curious to dig deeper into this!
Daniel Wasserlauf
@esus Thanks for bringing this up. In our payment integrations we do enable users to have stripe be their end payment provider, and while not perfect, there is an option inside of stripe for their fraud detection and radar rules to be setup which Paigo would run through before actually charging the end customer. Thereby giving an option for founders to have something in place to avoid the fees.
Esus 🛡️
@thisismattsun Yeah tbf I am unfamiliar with it outside of seeing it on Twitter, some examples haha: https://x.com/5katkov/status/129... This whole one is super compelling from @threehourcoffee : https://x.com/threehourcoffee/st... And another random one: https://x.com/LtCharmy/status/16...
Daniel Wasserlauf
@esus 🤯🤯🤯 Thanks for sharing those links. Payments are really the wild west on the internet still. I remember reading this blog post a few weeks back, and if you haven't read it I would reccomend giving it a skim https://piotrmierzejewski.com/p/... The author found some pretty interesting and indepth stuff regarding payment fraud, and credit card number generation.
Kshitij Mishra
Additional features: Multi-currency support Tax management Fraud detection and prevention Advanced reporting and analytics
Matt Sun
@kshitij_mishra4 Hey Kshitij, thanks for bringing them up. Here is our status on these features: - Multiple-currency support: Yes! we support USD and EURO. Currently adding a few asian currencies. - Tax management: Yes! We support tax rate specified by SaaS business, or integration with TaxJar. You can read more in our doc: https://docs.paigo.tech/invoicin... - Advanced reporting and analytics: YYYYeeesss!. We already have many analytics built-in! Additionally, we also support very advanced analytics so that you can actually write any code script to run analytics, just like a Lambda function. Lastly, you can visualize it. - Fraud detection and prevention: If you mean revenue recovery, YES we do have that! Paigo automatically handles failed credit card charges, etc. Quick question for you: is there any analytics you have in mind?
Ismail El Kasmi
Congrats, we're excited to see this masterpiece on 700.tools
Daniel Wasserlauf
@ismailelkasmi1 Yeah definitely! Get the word out! Its free to start and easy to sign up.
Chris Lester
Love it! Congrats team!
Daniel Wasserlauf
@chrislester Thanks so much for the support! Give Paigo a shot, and let us know what you think. :)
Philipp Geppert
The idea here is really good and I know there is a lot of demand for a tool like yours. Your documentation looks conclusive and easy to understand. Are you using any third party service providers to enable your service? Upvoted
Daniel Wasserlauf
@philippgeppert if youre asking about what 3rd party systems we integrate with, we have a lot of integration solutions out of the box. For any downstream systems, (quick books, excel, slack) you can receive a web hook notification when am event occurs and take action on it. additionally we are agnostic to any payment provider you want to choose. additionally we also can import and manage customers from existing platforms like stripe with basically zero effort. If you're asking how we built it and if we use 3rd party systems there. The main application is in aws running in a kubernetes cluster. we've built systems like this multiple times in-house before so it was fairly straightforward for us to spin something similar up.
Philipp Geppert
@daniel_wasserlauf I was pointing at what you use. Thank you for the explanation. Good luck with your great product!
Winged Piggy
Nice work, @thisismattsun! It looks like it's the perfect way to ensure your billing process is as efficient and cost-effective as possible. Here's to making daily tasks simpler and streamlining financial management. Cheers!
Matt Sun
@winged_piggy You got the idea! Improve efficiency, automate processes and make people happier!
Paweł Tomaszewski
Useful tool, I will definitely check this out 👌
Matt Sun
@pawel_tomaszewski Hey, thanks for your kind words! Love the work you are doing at Alphadoc. Feel free to sign up for Paigo for free (forever)!
Daan Stolk
@pawel_tomaszewski @thisismattsun I noticed your API docs aren't secure... feel free to take Alphadoc for a spin for better docs :-). Good luck with the launch!
Tony Yan
Will try to see if it suitable for us.
Daniel Wasserlauf
@zhitao_yan Yes! Let us know if you have any questions about your specific use case. Happy to chat. https://schedule.trypaigo.com
Andy Li
Congrats on the launch!!
Daniel Wasserlauf
@andydy25 Thanks so much! Let us know what you think of the product!
Garen Orchyan
Big congratulations on the launch team♥️🦄
Daniel Wasserlauf
@orchyan Thanks for the encouragement! Happy to launch to Producthunt.
Ishwar Jha
interesting stuff. I just hope you won't charge
Daniel Wasserlauf
@ishwarjha Try it out! Everyone starts off free, and then after you've increased your usage you'll begin to pay. However the tier system is pretty generous. We don't take a cut of your transactions or revenue. Its purely based on the actual usage of the platform. For example you could bill 10 customers for 100k each and not pay a penny to us, since relatively speaking its fairly low usage for us to generate and process those invoices for only 10 customers.
Jensen Kuo
Congrats on the launch. I spot y'all have expanded beyond usage-based. 📈
Daniel Wasserlauf
@jensen_kuo It was always the goal :P Thanks for the support. Give it a spin, its free!
Max Keenan
Was digging around with Paigo this morning -- the onboarding is solid, but the API docs could use a bit of work. Overall, looks pretty simple to set up and get running
Matt Sun
@max_keenan1 Hey Max, thanks for your feedback. We spent a lot of effort to make onboarding easy and smooth. And we surely will polish our API doc further!
Yuanxin Lu
Really interesting, I compared their price to stripe and some other providers out there for what you get its a lot cheaper and does many of the same things
Daniel Wasserlauf
@yuanxin_lu Yeah thats the goal! Making billing easy and affordable for everyone.
Jove Zhong
I'm thrilled to share our experience with Paigo, our trusted usage-based pricing vendor. Timeplus.com specializes in fully-managed streaming OLAP database in the cloud, and our partnership with Paigo for billing has greatly streamlined our operations. Paigo consistently exceeds our expectations with innovation and customer satisfaction. Their weekly feature updates are truly impressive. We wholeheartedly recommend Paigo to any data infrastructure SaaS company.
Daniel Wasserlauf
@jovez Thanks so much! I would echo that back, Timeplus is great and everyone should check them out!
Quanlai Li
Congrats on launching this product, cannot wait to see how it will work with our product, drlambda.ai
Daniel Wasserlauf
@quanlai_li1 Went to your site for the slides to posts product. For the pricing system you have on your website that's a really common structure a number of our clients implement as well. I would look at this doc: https://docs.paigo.tech/saas-pri... to implement the structure you're looking for. As you want to iterate on that model we have bunch of tools for you so its not a nightmare. Feel free to ping me anytime daniel.wasserlauf@paigo.tech happy to help!
Shahmir Faisal
Congrats on the launch Matt!
Matt Sun
@shahmir_faisal Appreciate your support on the launch!
Kishlaya Sharma
This is great ! Congrats Matt and team !
Daniel Wasserlauf
@bling_captain Thank you so much for the support!
Wei Zhu
Great work @thisismattsun! In all the previous companies I've worked at and my current startup, billing has always been a patchwork of spreadsheet + python script + manual review, and there are always little issues that eventually roll up into a big problem... ... until Paigo. I'm a big fan of no-code solutions. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to seeing more of this!
Matt Sun
@zhu_wei1 Great to have product experts like your in the community!