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@bentossell yeah but it's Microsoft seems like the such an awful statement to base purchases on. MS is killing it right now and Apple is stagnating IMO.
@mildrenben killing it with outdated I/O: no USB-C on a $3k computer, outdated graphics cards, etc.
The concept is nice, but I don't need it, I can't draw anyway.
@mburns87 if you bought it less than 30 days ago, you should be able to return it. Apple has a very liberal return policy, so you can return even used items
@bentossell Looks to me like amongst the most dysfunctional things ever seen. It's a gimmick I would expect from a gaming keyboard.
I'm faster with my shortcuts and mouse than I would ever be with that battery absorbing gimmick bar.
So now on a Pro machine I gotta get more dongles for my SD card and dongles for my drives (that I just bought) and more dongles for HDMI? That's BS. I can understand the logic on a consumer machine but not when Apple is supposedly great for photographers/creators and the like.
@kidbombay But they kept the headphone jack, so that makes up for losing USB, HDMI, MagSafe and card slot, right? Except based on their new iPhones, they see headphone jacks as obsolete. Oh, Apple.
@kidbombay Think about it this way though: every port is every port. There may be a dongle, sure. But this thing is way more forward thinking this way.
@mg this is backwards. Now I have to carry more stuff which doesn't help. I actually have to buy a SD card reader which I haven't had to purchase for 5 years.
@desmonddantzler @hameto_ They did show how customizing the bar was really fluid as the two screens were close to each other. I do agree ergonomically it seems awkward at first, but I think when you start to use it it might be better placed. Also, it's where the function keys were, its extending their use.
@hameto_ if it was placed near the trackpad, your hands/arm would cover it while typing. It's basically a small screen. Since the content is dynamic, hindering visibility would be a mistake.
@jackdweck I wanted to resist. I tried to resist. But yes, please just take my money. And more of my money for ever accessory I currently own but in USB-C form...
@jackdweck 15" loaded = $4,299. They make you pay for the 2TB, that's for sure. I'm going to wait for a 32GB refresh for now, so in a bizarre reversal "Keep my money". :-D
Looks good. However is it true that Apple killed the Air? Loving that emoji bar, finally a nice update to an Apple product! ;)
Might recover the poor sales on the iPad Pro and the iPhone 7.
As a certain Twitter user said: Microsoft announces a 28-inch, beautiful computer with a touchscreen display. Apple adds a tiny sliver of an iPad to the MacBook Pro.
I don't have *that* much courage to forego MagSafe, USB and Thunderbolt 2 😐. I have 0 (zero) devices to connect to the new MBP.
Ergonomic nightmare. I would expect this type of gimmick to be on a samsung, not apple. Everything has gone downhill since we lost Jobs.
TouchBar is meh. I really think Apple needs to figure out how it's going to tear down its current suite of hardware and build something new from the ground up.
I can't quite get over the grey buttons on the touchbar. Looks strange against the black keyboard buttons. For an Apple product, it looks pretty tacked on at the end. Disappointing.
@ibcj I have been waiting on 32gb for the past 3 years. It's ridiculous to run todays "RAM heavy" professional software and browsers on 16gb of RAM. Huge mistake!
Interesting response from Phil Schiller posted by MacRumors:
*Question from David:* The lack of a 32GB BTO option for the new MBPs raised some eyebrows and caused some concerns (me included). Does ~3GBps bandwidth to the SSD make this a moot issue? I.e. memory paging on a 16GB system is so fast that 32GB is not a significant improvement?
*Schiller's answer:* Thank you for the email. It is a good question. To put more than 16GB of fast RAM into a notebook design at this time would require a memory system that consumes much more power and wouldn't be efficient enough for a notebook. I hope you check out this new generation MacBook Pro, it really is an incredible system.
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10...
@brunolemos I still fancy myself a software engineer, and certainly am still quite a nerd. So my largest consumption of memory typically comes from running multiple virtual machines. And I'd love nothing more than to be able to run two VM's with 8ish GB each (leaving 16GB for my native OS). And come to think of it, even running native in 16GB with another 16GB to a primary VM would be lovely.
Another (not so primary use case) would be to be able to run analytics on largeish data sets in memory. Loading a couple GB dataset into memory for analytics and processing on my local machine just makes me smile.
the new super amazing blablabla touch bar looks like a BIG joke to me (specially compared with surface book)....
I must admit, from owning a MBP since early 2013, it has almost become an extension of my body, and I for one was extremely interested to see what they had to launch yesterday. And for the most part, I was really happy. 4 ports (I was expecting 2), TouchBar which will be great for NEW professionals, finding stuff usually in menus, TouchID home button, some great coherence with iPhone/iPad. I do still have some qualms over Apple Software (Siri mainly), but my main complaint over this new MBP is the price 😫 A big bump on the 15" model from before. Can you guys justify the price?
@peterjdonoghue I can't justify the price without Kaby Lake. I realize Apple can't afford to wait another 3-6 months
Everything in this besides the touch bar is just a spec bump. And they didn't even bump the most important specs! The SSD capacity is the same (unless you want to pay an absurd price for the 2TB option), and the RAM is still at 16GB, the same as 5 years ago. And for that they decided to increase the base price, I wonder what justification there could be for that.
Less radical than expected. Touch Bar is meh. Sad to see Magsafe go. The forced reliance on dongles is a fiasco. But...I'll probably still get a maxed out 13" ;-)
I was sad no gold one was announced. Mind you, the Touch Bar looks pretty awesome. And heads up to @ProductHunt, it's Touch Bar with a space for your caption. 😉
- No 32G options
- No phisical function keys
- No ESC!!!
- No DDR4
- No MagSafe
- No USB-A
- No card reader
- No kaby lake processors
In the end of 2016? Pro? Pro for what? For sending emojis?
I'm used several generations Apple computers during last 6 years, because of they are the best for my productivity, not because it's just have an apple logo.
I'm still happy with my current MacBook, but time doesn't stand still, and I dont't have any option to buy a new (modern) apple hardware in 2016-2017. It's very sad.
Not buying until they remove the headphone jack. What do they think this is, August 2016?
It's funny how much the opinions differ here vs. Hacker News, where the general consensus seems to be more negative 😂
Gotta say, they made something that could have looked super ugly and out-of-place, well, beautiful. Props. Take my mo... Oh wait, I bought one a year ago — which they told me was "the best ever".
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