@tommoor Definitely. Aggregate, open data is always more interesting than silo'd. I think there's an important balance with data sharing, though. We want to encourage a city planner realizing two businesses are complimentary but police a company who tries to use Density to track their competitors. At this point, we think it's a game of distribution. How do you get an enormous number of sensors out into the world and generating meaningful data? How did you approach distribution with Sqwiggle? Direct, partnerships, or a combination?

@andrewfarah If the game is distribution then a self installable version ala square feels like it should be at the top of your list as quickly as physically possible once you've figured out any issues doing the current manual installations...

@tommoor Fair point. One other thing I should mention. Density should be unremarkable when it's installed. That's hard to accomplish at scale. So the first step atm is to get the installations as smooth as possible for us and then venture out into smooth for others. But your point is well taken.

@gillianim would you use them as a mobile in it or as a permanent installation? I guess I'm asking, what types of venues were your planning in and around?

@clarkvalberg Where in upstate do you hail from?

@andrewfarah @clarkvalberg Amsterdam, NY then Albany :)

@darrenbuckner Was our first partner he personally has more to do with our sensor's ability to stay online than almost anyone. #PortlandTroubleshooting. More on how we let them down here :) -- https://medium.com/@andrewfarah/...

@andrewfarah that's what partners are for! My story about getting things up and running is here -- https://workfrom.co/blog/innovat... :)

@jason At some point, I'm going to get a tech writer to let me tell them what it's like to negotiate with you.

@jason This is going to be in Vegas with Jason on board. Can't see a better application than Casinos and Resorts where they literally can out dollar numbers on each person that walk in. Wait for it...

@andrewfarah @jason Looks great. Can i have your email address for business development opp. We're leading retail tech firm in our area.

@jonmrich in developing the technology the last year, it's been a balancing act between function and form. Until @ubeam gets integrated into our stuff, we need to run a power wire to an outlet. Which, if handled improperly, can look bad. The unit has to be both small enough to disappear into the background but installed properly enough, that the data is never bad and the unit doesn't need to be replaced (battery or otherwise). That said, a self-installed unit is certainly not out of the question. It's just early. And, atm, our data is only as good as the quality of our installations. When a typical customer could represent hundreds or thousands of installs, making sure the first significant set are properly stood up is important.

@andrewfarah This makes total sense. I was picturing the units with Li-ion or similar like many of the beacons out there. Thanks for the quick response. Best of luck with it.

@jonmrich re: http://expound.io. I dig the "Enter your total database size:" on the homepage. Really puts into perspective what's possible with the software and a clever user hook.

@andrewfarah sounds interesting, definitely a need for this. I spent some time in the footfall space using sensors in my last startup. Can you talk about how you manage occlusion (people walking together, strollers, pets, etc) real time capabilities and how accurate the system is ? Might make me a customer :p

@edch2020 Sure. 1. We can measure multiple people walking two-abreast through a double door when we install sensors on both sides. For our single door entryways, we've found few people walk in directly next to one another. They just can't fit. 2. We're looking for really good data. Not perfect. People and businesses make decisions when clear, accurate data is readily available. Few seem to care about being off by single digit percentages. 3. Every environment is different. So our signal processing algorithm learns with each markedly new doorway or venue. It's amazing how much something as simple as a line out the door requires the algorithm to stretch a different muscle. Not sure if those answer your questions perfectly but, in my opinion (in its current form) it's a very good solution to a fundamental problem.

@dgquint Happy to chat. Send us an email team@density.io

@meshlakhani We've heard the word "gyms" a lot lately. Particularly on college campuses. Any particular gym? And would you use this even if it were at a place with lots of scheduled classes?

@meshlakhani damn straight. I'd say gym is much broader and more useful than a coffee shop

@tommoor @meshlakhani However, I will personally reach out to Workshop Cafe. I think they've been brought up a number of times now.

@sarahadowney That is exactly what we're after (integrate with the apps you already use).

@mrmikesmith Collectively, we've always been big fans of yours, Mike.

@andymci Initially we were concerned about the long scroll, too. @kyle_ohara and @robertgrazioli led design on this.

@andymci The result of a great team, understanding the importance of clear copy, insane amounts of iteration, and simply being fed up with product sites filled with incomprehensible marketing speak. We think there are a few things to improve on but are definitely aiming for an understanding of the product before you even touch that scroll wheel! Thanks for the feedback.

@andymci The page seems to jump up and down if you are reading below the top image. Minor but kind of weird.

@iamflori You know... foosball-table-busyness is quickly becoming one of our largest potential markets.

@_dannybin Our sensor doesn't use all that much power but it needs a steady stream of energy all day. We had some inquiries about a mobile unit and solar has certainly come up. Out of curiosity, how long would you ideally like to collect real estate data for (2 weeks / 3 months?) and what type of real estate - residential / commercial?

@andrewfarah @_dannybin What's the range on Density like? Could it be used to monitor foot traffic through a downtown street? If mounted on a doorway, or inside an externally facing window?

@clogish @_dannybin Conservatively, this model's range is 48in. It's optimized for doorway-threshold coverage. That said, we think there's a lot of opportunity in measuring foot traffic outside. But at the moment we're focused on the billions of doorways in the world. Maybe someday we'll move to the great outdoors.

@rocketclubco Industrial design has been a lesson in ... you don't know what you don't know until you have to.