"When we’re kids, we have ideas of what we want to be when we grow up — movie star, doctor, astronaut. But what if we dream of being like Butch Cassidy, Jesse James, or John Dillinger? And what happens when you’re not a kid anymore but you’re still obsessed with becoming an outlaw? Many, many thanks to everyone who donated to the Radiotopia Fall Fundraising Campaign. Your support means so much. "

I just posted a more in depth interview Clay did on the Bad Christian podcast, check it out https://www.producthunt.com/podc.... Fascinating stuff