Cocoon
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Rescue your most treasured group chats
Alex Cornell
Cocoon — A private app for the most important people in your life
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Cocoon is a dedicated space for the most important people in your life. You use it with a single group who you want to feel closer with — it's like your home, on your phone.
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Alex Cornell
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Hello I'm Alex, one of the cofounders of Cocoon. The site and the video do a good job covering the highlights – I'll chime in with sometime I'm particularly excited about, which is the threading model we built into Cocoon. We refer to it as clustered conversations. In a typical message thread, the entire conversation is linear. Every message is added onto the end of a single thread. This makes for a really lightweight exchange that can be contained in one view. However, for group chats in particular this can be chaotic, especially when multiple topics are being discussed at once. By contrast, feeds are organized around posts, which host their own distinct comment threads. This is great for organization, but comes at the cost of navigational overhead, where comments are displayed on separate pages and posts need to be organized algorithmically. Since Cocoon is a dedicated space for a group, we can take unique liberties with the construction of the space itself. We are able to combine the lightweight linearity of a messaging thread, with the organized comment model of a reverse-chronological feed. The main view in Cocoon is a combination of manual and ambient updates, appearing in the order they were created. Each update – each piece of context – is capable of hosting its own conversation attached to it. When you tap on any update, the keyboard will appear and you can reply in-line. Your comment will attach directly to whatever you clicked on, and the order of the top-level updates will remain unchanged. This allows multiple conversations to occur at once, all in a single view. The end result is a cluster of conversations, built on a clear hierarchy between top-level updates and their attached comments.
Dan Lee
Great idea for a Family app. Love the illustrations - who did them?
Pedro Wunderlich
Amazing product, love the thinking and research behind it! Any chance you could share with us how you guys managed to raise $3M seed while remaining under the radar?
David Kampmann
Ok, looks interesting. My family is connected all through iMessage. What is the 10x value to switch?
Alex Cornell
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Maker
@mrkampmann A good question – for 99% of the threads you have on iMessage, Cocoon probably won't get you to 10x value. It's designed for the 1% of people who you care about 100x more. For those people, Cocoon is easily 10x better, largely because it is designed for that specific use-case (supporting your closest relationships). Sachin touches on this above – basically there is a whole category of features that wouldn't make *any* sense inside of a general purpose messaging app, but would provide incredible value inside Cocoon. Two I'm excited about here are: ambient sharing (lightweight automatic updates around location/weather/activity etc) and automatic flight tracking (which is coming soon).
adam webber
Does anyone remember the Path app? Why did Path end up failing? It was beautifully designed and promoted the same value prop as Cocoon. Was Path to early to the space? Is second time the charm? Is there enough people who buy into this vision to turn it into a business? How much traction would it take to make sure Cocoon can stay operational?
Alex Cornell
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@adamwebber I'll always welcome comparisons to Path, as I was a huge fan of the app and what they accomplished. Indeed, we share similar goals around supporting close relationships. While there is certainly narrative overlap, the construction of our solution differs in important ways. Cocoon is not a social network. A network, even when capped in size, is still ultimately a broadcast medium between asymmetrically connected individuals. The dynamics around sharing, privacy, identity management etc still apply, just as they would in a large network. Cocoon's model is more like a group thread. There is no network. The app is a private space for you and the few people who've decided to be in your Cocoon together. This creates an intimate/interconnected group dynamic that wouldn't be possible in a network of individuals. Of course, who knows if that's ultimately any better of a model lol, but it is distinct. I'm glad Cocoon reminds people of Path, because Path was awesome. We ultimately are trying to achieve very similar goals, just in a different way.
Taurean Bryant
I really want to be excited for this, but in it's current state it's not really usable for me _yet_. I really hope that changes. I know I've seen @alexcornell touch on this on twitter (referring to it as the in-law problem) but lots of people will belong to different Cocoons. With a platform like Cocoon, I expect I'll want to share the same content with quite a few different groups. I'm hoping we'll see a way to do that easily that doesn't require going through the post flow over and over again or spam people who are in multiple cocoons with you with the same content. I'd also like to see more post types and search features, I feel like those were both ways that Path really shined.
Alex Cornell
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@_taurean Thanks Taurean, multi-Cocoon is top (almost, technically #2) of our list right now. It's very important. We had to prioritize the basics ahead of it, getting to launch, but we're working hard on it now. Looking forward to hearing what you think once we have it ready :)
Marius Masalar
This seems very promising—eager to try it with family/friends!
William Hu
I'm more keen to know what's the likelihood you guys will end up selling your business to Facebook...
Cory Etzkorn
Congrats on the launch! Excited to try this with my family over the holiday.
AMY
This reminds me how much I miss Path and how it brought friends and family closer together 🥺 Excited to try it out!
Louis-Xavier
Seems really promising. Would love to see multiple cocoons as well! Cheers and great work!
Deleted User
@alexcornell - just wanted to say I'm a fan of your work. Was not surprised at all by the production quality of this video and the visual/motion design of the app. Some really interesting ideas worth exploring here, excited to see the team iterate on this!
Alex Cornell
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Maker
@bryantpeng Thank you! Any chance to break out the Origami prototyping machine, I will TAKE IT!
chris ye - cye.eth
Congrats on launching this @monga. App looks really refined !
Kyle Mitchell
Can you point to a privacy policy?
Amrith
@jaggedlines according to their App Store page, here's their privacy policy 🙌
Sachin Monga
@jaggedlines @amrith thanks for finding! we're working on making our privacy policy more discoverable and making the language itself a lot stronger and more clear as we speak too.
Matt Blake
Fantastic idea and beautifully designed app!
Alok Saboo
Fantastic idea!! Do you have an API to access the information? I would love to use it for my home automation.
Lyondhür Picciarelli
@monga - Could you speak of how encryption (resting, p2p.. if any) and - truthfully - who can or has access to the information the user adds in the app please?
Lyondhür Picciarelli
@monga never mind, cheers. I’ve just ready your privacy policy and tos. Great looking app. Personally, I reckon the words “private space” are misleading. The contents added by the user are not private at all according to the Privacy Policy and there’s a whole discussion there in relation to what the campaign video portrays in itself. I would not be able to trust the content/privacy of my family and close friends to such an operational model and, as it is, I don’t believe you guys can afford shifting it towards privacy (investment and business plan offered for it?) That would be a pass for me.
Steve Daniels
I've been looking for an app like this! However, it's really important for it to have group polling to make on the fly decisions. Is this something you are planning to add?
Ashton Squires
I've been hoping a product like this would come out, very interested to see where it goes! Can I ask, do you plan to offer 'premium features' in the future? Whats the business model?
Alex Cornell
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Maker
@ashton_squires Thanks Ashton! The business model will eventually be paid subscription. We will not run ads. Ultimately, Cocoon should be valuable enough that you would want to pay for it. That's the goal. The subscription model itself, is something we're working on now.
Ben Lang
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Congrats on the launch! Excited to give this a try with my family. 🙌