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CloudMagic for Mac — Simple, beautiful & blazing fast email app now on Mac.
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@bentossell
- Our 3M mobile users have been asking for a native Mac app. This is by far the #1 feature request.
- If you are only a Gmail user, one of the advantages of a native app is increased snappiness, alt tab switching, etc (basically every advantage of a desktop app)
- CloudMagic really shines when you have multiple email accounts across vendors (Work, Personal, University). Our users register 2.6 accounts on an average
- By charging for the desktop app, we are trying to create a legit & clean business model
@bentossell "I downloaded Polymail but never use it, and since updating I've had issues getting back into it":
1) how come you never use it
2) what do you mean by "since updating"? updating what and why's that affect things?
@_jacksmith when I first got it, I couldn't see an unread vs all in my inbox... that put me off.
Not sure I need all the bells and whistles. I star emails for later, read, reply and delete. I'm always on top of them each day.
I was promted today with an update to install, so I did. Now it keeps asking me to sign in, when I type in my details it says can't upgrade existing account. Assume a bug, but don't have time for it when Gmail does everything I need atm.
@bentossell If you have multiple email accounts a client is really necessary. I have to imagine Google is thinking about that though, and will have a solution eventually. That being said Polymail is the best new Mac email app on the market, would have tried CloudMagic if there was a trial but would never pay $20 out of the gate
@bentossell Got an e-mail from @karthiksuroju asking me to join the conversation on Product Hunt and share my thoughts. So here are my thoughts:
1) I never joined the mailing list for this product
2) The e-mail address it was sent to was the e-mail address I use for some of the Product Hunt slack channels, which tells me it's been farmed (not cool).
3) I've never used CloudMagic before in my life, and since I'm a Windows user, I really don't see how this product is relevant to me.
4) I am now wondering - if I was using CloudMagic, would it have the ability to filter out unsolicited spam?
General consensus from other commenters seems to be that there should be a LITE version of this app (if a trial isn't possible), which would allow users to explore base features of the product before committing to a full purchase.
These guys admitted spamming everyone and harvesting their emails ILLEGALY and the product is still on top 10 of @ProductHunt? Ok. GG mods
@romainbarissat @orliesaurus they harvested emails from Slack communities, without the permission of the community mods, and most importantly the users. In my opinion, starting off your product launch with something as dishonest as this is not cool, not cool at all.
@adamturnbulluk @orliesaurus yes we went a bit overboard with it. Apologies once again. Harvesting email from Slack communities was not cool.
@rohitnadhani @orliesaurus not cool? ITS ILLEGAL. You should be punished/penalized.
"Our 3M mobile users have been asking for a native Mac app. This is by far the #1 feature request." So why not gouge $20 out of those requesters?
I know that desktop email clients are very difficult to monetise, but seriously, $20 and no trial?
Lots of people provide trial versions of apps, and sell through the Mac App store, it's not rocket science. Saying it's difficult is not a valid response. Some might say the lack of a trial is a cynical ploy to grab as much revenue as possible.
@frassmith Yes, its difficult, not impossible. We wanted to keep licensing as simple as possible on launch. For a lot of our users, the "trial" is our mobile apps. In the future, we might figure out to offer trials on desktop apps as well.
@leewynne I was lucky enough to get a promo code through their site, and I've got to say it's a slick app... but not one I would have been happy with at $20. It has a bare-bones preferences menu (much less than available on the iOS apps) and seems to be missing a few features that I use on the iOS apps.
Right now, it really seems like the only benefit from this app is Handoff, and as a native OS X & iOS API it doesn't really seem logical to pay $20 for such a feature.
@raptblue "bare-bones preferences menu (much less than available on the iOS apps)" - should not be the case. Which one did you miss? Yes there are some preferences on the Iphone that are not applicable on Mac.
@rohitnadhani Hi there. Good to see all the PR on the launch. Two questions, both related 1. Why should I buy this when Spark is due out anytime for free. 2. What is the reason for the price? Is it because you don't farm people 'be aware of geeks with free gifts etc'?
@tnsrig No simple way to do trials on the Mac App Store. CloudMagic is free to use as long as you want on iOS and Android and if you like it, you will be right at home on the Mac too. You are paying for the cohesive experience of emailing with all your preferences intact on all your devices.
Hello Product Hunters!
I’m super excited to be here. Thank you @kwdinc for hunting us!
A little background-
We launched CloudMagic mobile apps around 2 years ago, with the aim of providing the best emailing experience on mobile devices. We take pride in the fact that we are a 4.5 star rated email app on both Apple App Store and Google Play Store, and being used by 3 million users.
Why we built a Mac app-
After iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch and Android, a desktop app was the natural next step. Our mobile users had also started banging our doors for a native Mac app. Moreover, we wanted to provide a consistent user experience across all devices.
CloudMagic for Mac (https://cloudmagic.com/k/mac?ref...) is the most ambitious thing we have ever done, and perhaps the most opinionated email app ever made for the desktop. Here are some of our best features so far:
- We support all types of email accounts, including all versions of Exchange: ActiveSync (EAS), EWS & IMAP
- Handoff: Automatically “hand off” what you’re doing from iPhone, iPad or Apple Watch to Mac.
- Easily manage your emails from Inbox View with one-click actions (Archive, Delete etc)
- Keyboard shortcuts that help you get things done quickly (A - Archive, R- Reply etc)
I’ll be here all day answering your queries.
*FREE Promo Codes*
We love the PH community and to show our love, we are giving away 25 Free Promo Codes exclusively to Product Hunters :)
ALL the Product Hunters stand a chance to win 1 of the 25 promo Codes when they visit our website. Read how - http://help.cloudmagic.com/artic...
@rohitnadhani Was not sure how to request the promo code. Assume this is the request)
@nikitakorotaev @rohitnadhani We are giving away promo codes at random to hunters who visit our website through product Hunt. We reserved 25 for Product Hunters. Apple only provides 100 and hence the limit. Let me see if I can get you a promo code :)
@rohitnadhani Where do you request the promo code - I don't see anything on that FAQ page, or the home page?
@rohitnadhani @karthiksuroju I'll do whatever it takes to get one of those Promo Codes! I'm a poor kid in Brooklyn just trying to make it in this tech world of ours, so any help I can get on the monetary side of things is much appreciated. ;-)
Love the design of this, but I prefer email clients that have a list of emails along the left, then when you click on one, the preview of that email appears on the right. This allows me to jump between emails really fast because the list never goes away. It looks like in this UI the inbox list is full-width, then when you click on one the preview takes up the whole screen. Seems like this would add a lot of clicks going back and forth between viewing your inbox and viewing a specific email (Gmail also works like this).
Other than that, solid work!
@jmsuth Thanks! But, don't you think this will help you focus more on the email that you are reading/composing? You can use arrow keys to navigate between email easily.
@karthiksuroju Not really, there's enough screen real estate to focus. I can understand why on smaller devices the paradigm works, but it doesn't make sense to me on larger screens
@jmsuth our philosophy is to keep the experience clean, remove the distractions while reading emails. Once you start using the app, I'm sure our opinions will align :)
@karthiksuroju @jmsuth I think this is fair for reading/writing long emails, but when you want to quickly process a whole bunch of short/irrelevant emails, all the clicking and switching views would be frustrating.
@bellebcooper @jmsuth Our Mac app allows you to act on emails from the inbox view itself. Just hover over an email to take quick actions. You can discard the unwanted emails from the inbox view itself and then 'act' on the important ones. Yes, the important ones are the emails that we 'read'/'write'. By allowing you to focus on what matters the most, our Mac app will make your emailing pleasant. I say, give it a try and decide :)
YES I have been waiting and waiting for this and now I have THREE Mac mail apps competing for my dock slot: Polymail, Nyla's N1, CloudMagic.
@karthiksuroju right now polymail seems to be winning, but CloudMagic iOS is SO good, I almost need a polymail iOS before I make my decision.
@cohix right there with you. Been quite happy with Polymail so far, but would love the "organise by person" feature of UniboxApp then I could die happy :)
@khurammalik @cohix Why not just use Unibox? Just asking as we always try to make Unibox better.
@lassejansen @cohix I took a look at the website but didn't see any support for email tracking, send later, dropbox/grive integration etc? I would definitely use Unibox if I knew those things were available.
Doesn't the Mac App Store in-app purchase system provide an easy way for you to offer customers a free app? You make some features available only after in-app purchase. I'm running Boxy as my current primary client, may go back to Postbox or AirMail but AirMail will be the last Mail client I'll spend more than $5 on without at least a trial period.
@bigyahu 'Making some features available using in-app purchase' makes sense when we have niche features for a subset of users that augment core emailing. Right now if we have to do it we'll have to either stop you from using the app after a point, which Apple doesn't allow, or remove basic emailing features, which is again awkward. We mean it when we say 'try our mobile apps for free'. If you like the experience on mobile you will like us on the Mac too. CloudMagic for Mac introduces you to a minimal and distraction free experience in emailing compared to what currently exists. Features wise we still have a long way to go compared to the desktop apps which had gone through years of development, but we'll soon get there.
I agree, I shifted away from when they would only allow 5 accounts with out paying for it. Went back once but it just doesn't have the same ease and functionality others free apps do.
There was a time at my previous company where we did not have the resources yet to put everyone on google for work, and we used a standard postfix server with unix accounts. Cloudmagic has been incredibly helpful in that, because:
* it's the only highly configurable smtp/imap ready app working on both iOS and android I found
* its middle man login made it easier for user to manage their password, compared to unix passwords
* I could setup account for users, configure their account, then they just download the app, log in and they're ready to go
Cloudmagic is the perfect solution if you're after something cheap yet not a pain for your collegues :)
You guys are loosing acquisitions & activations due the lack of a trial. Maybe re-evaluate the cost of providing a trial?
One can easily imagine an increase in productivity with a mail app like Polymail which replaces gmail/mailbox & browser plugins (email tracking, rapportive) with a fast and beautiful native app.
The CloudMagic selling pitch is that it's used by 3 million *mobile* users & the app has a very minimalistic UI. Personally the pitch doesn't motivate me to risk $20.
If you guys ever release a trial I would love to try it out!
@roadtoaether Mac App Store doesn't allow trials. Our model is simple, mobile apps are free and will act as 'trial'. If you like the experience, you can go for the Mac app. The experience will be similar on all the devices.
@roadtoaether The first version has basic email features and it'll be loaded with power features and tools with the upcoming versions.
@karthiksuroju @roadtoaether
Guess nobody asked why you bothered to go through the App Store. So why did you? 1Password is really popular and they offer their app through both the App Store and online via direct download.
This seems like poor strategy and I use your mobile client. The App Store is a fine enough marketplace, but when you're a smaller startup, you've gotta be everywhere first.
@cicadadesign @roadtoaether Yes. Right now we kept it simple to focus on basic emailing features and push the the first version out asap. We'll get to offering trials on our website in the future.
CloudMagic on iOS has been a sublime experience. Unfortunately it's now competing with rather excellent Spark by Readdle.
It would be great to see some of the iOS functionality on desktop. I am guessing this may be an early release and we will be seeing more magic coming.
Creating a app for email is tough and one that works across platforms doubly so. Apart from the general malaise and challenges with email itself it’s apps like CloudMagic that will hopefully help pave the way to a more succinct and seamless experience.
Looking forward to seeing how this evolves.
@tomflemming Thanks! One thing is for sure, you'll be seeing more magic!
Any plans on adding snoozing emails?
Visually CloudMagic seems like something made for my minimalistic needs, but without snoozing any email app is pretty much useless.
I wish there was at lest a 2 days trial. Even though I'd pay a lot of the perfect email client, I'm not going to pay $20 to test an app.
@oskar Option to snooze emails will be added very soon. And, Mac App Store doesn't offer trials. Our mobile apps are free and you can try them out anytime. If you like us on mobile, you'll feel right at home on Mac too :)
@karthiksuroju @oskar this message was posted about 6 months ago, and yet the snooze feature is nowhere to be seen. Exactly how do you define the word "soon"?
I would totally try this product out as I am always looking for the holy grail mail app. I do have to say that charging $20 for a mail app really does rub me the wrong way as a potential user.
@chezacke You can try our mobile apps which are free. If you like us on mobile, I'm pretty sure that you'll love us on Mac too. Cheers!
I am a big fan of your mobile app but $19.99 without even trying it doesn't make any sense. Would pay if I can try it first.
@bvatere No simple way to do trials on Mac App Store. If you love us on mobile, you'll feel right at home on OSX too.
@karthiksuroju Will you refund if I don't? The screenshots in the store are confusing
@bvatere What is confusing about the screenshots? I'll get them corrected.
@karthiksuroju @bvatere Don't understand what the inbox look like. Is there a left side nav? Do you have cards like in the mobile app? Based on the screenshot, it looks like a web app, not a native app
@bvatere The inbox is in the centre with Grey area around. This will allow you to focus on your emails. No, cards are not part of the 1st version of our Mac app. We'll get them on Mac soon.
We are seeing some confusion around how our Promo Code give away strategy, let me throw some light on it -
Because of the app store restrictions, we had to have a limit on number of promo codes that we can offer. We saw others on Product Hunt commenting the promo codes and felt it is an unfair advantage for early birds. hence we tried something new -
Hunters who visit the website from our Product Hunt page have a one-in-a-hundred chance of winning an exclusive PH promo code. We have randomized the entire process so that the 1st person is as likely to win as anyone else. Here's what you'll see if Lady Luck smiles on you - 
“The world is cruel, and the only morality in a cruel world is chance.”
- Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight
“The world is cruel, and the only morality in a cruel world is chance.”
- Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight@karthiksuroju Does it ONLY tell you if you've won and say nothing at all if you didn't? That's a bit confusing. You would eliminate much of the confusion if everyone that landed on the page from PH was shown a Win or Lose message accordingly as opposed to only showing WIN messages to those 25 people
@mobilegreg @karthiksuroju Only the ones who win will see the form. We didn't want to show any message to all the others, as we thought it'll not add much value. But, didn't think it would confuse people. Like I said, this is something we tried for the 1st time on PH. We'll keep this in mind if we do something similar next time :)
So I've been using Cloudmagic for a really long time and love it.
And I actually paid the $20 for it because I do love the iOS versions on my iphone and ipad (and everything is already setup in Cloudmagic anyway).
But unless I am missing it, the Mac version does not have the integrations with Evernote, Asana, and Trello. And if true, then it's really disappointing. And not worth the $20. Please say it isn't so?!
@patrickcondon Mac version doesn't have the integrations, yet. They'll be added in one of our upcoming versions.
Rohit, Karthik, Umesh, Vinit,
I am so excited that you released CloudMagic on Mac! Theres something I want to tell to the makers of this app: don't get shaken by some of the negative comments on here. People can be crabby. Although it is good for you to get feedback and ideas - you have the vision - you know your customers better than anyone on this thread. Plus - I have been using CloudMagic on iPhone for a while now and I think that it is a pretty damn good indicator at what the Mac App is like so not having a free trial isn't as big of a deal for me than for others.
Thanks for making such an awesome product!
Take care,
John
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